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New Square Loan in 2024

I’m at a bit of a loss for what else I need to do to be offered a new Square Loan at this point. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years, had 7 loans now that I’ve have paid back early every single time. Metrics are all in green, record sales year. In 2023, record numbers across the board, no refunds, no complaints or issues of any kind in our entire history. Current loan is 80% paid off, but no new offer in site. This is the kind of stuff that causes businesses to find someone else to process through! Please help! I’m sure I’ll get the same old excuses that you guys send to everyone about looking at every aspect of the business. But there isn’t a single aspect that isn’t way up. I’m not sure if there is a new process they are using now, or if there is some kind of issue with my banking or something else I’m not thinking about or aware of. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, because I could really use some new capital to start the year off with and reinvest into my business!

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I'm really sorry to hear about your frustration with the loan offers. I understand how important it is to feel valued, especially as a loyal customer. Let me try to address your concerns and provide some clarity.

Loan Offers and Qualification Parameters

Square’s loan offers are based on a variety of factors, and while past trends have shown offers at certain thresholds, the exact parameters can change over time and are not always disclosed in detail. Here are a few points to consider:

  • Dynamic Criteria: Square uses a complex set of algorithms that take into account not just the repayment percentage but also your recent sales history, account health, and overall business performance.
  • Market Conditions: External market conditions and internal policy changes can also impact when and how loan offers are extended.

Value Beyond Transaction Fees

I understand that a 3% card transaction fee can seem high compared to other providers, but Square offers several features and benefits that help justify this cost:

  • Integrated Ecosystem: Square provides a comprehensive suite of tools that work seamlessly together, from point-of-sale systems to online stores, invoicing, and inventory management.
  • Ease of Use: The user-friendly interface and intuitive design make managing your business simpler and more efficient, saving you time and reducing the need for extensive training.
  • Reliable Support: Square offers robust customer support and resources to help you resolve issues quickly and keep your business running smoothly.
  • Secure Transactions: Advanced security measures protect your business and customers from fraud and data breaches.
  • Analytics and Reporting: Detailed analytics and reporting tools help you understand your business performance and make informed decisions.

 

I understand the disappointment regarding the loan offer, please know that Square regularly reviews its criteria and your status. I recommend reaching out to Square’s customer support for a more personalized review of your account and to express your concerns directly.

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Good news, bad news, eh @cmeshine.  There are a number of reasons that COULD be part of why your new offer was lower.

 

  1. Square might be slowing down on how much loan exposure they want to have on their balance sheet.  They are, after all, a publicly traded company that has to answer to their shareholders and investors.
  2. If our sales are flat or at least not growing at a good rate to cover inflation and higher interest, then Square’s algorithm understands that inflation is eating into our available cash to pay bills, etc.  Flat sales (or very slowly growing sales) are always red flags to lenders, Square or not.
  3. Sometimes how long it takes us to pay off our current loans can be a factor.  Let’s say that previous loans were paid off with automatic payments in 8-10 months in the past.  But for this current loan it took us 12-15 months.  That tells Square that our card processing volume can’t keep you with higher loan amounts.  Yes, they give us 18 months to fully pay a loan, but they obviously prefer that we pay them off closer to the 12 month mark.
  4. If our cash/card ratio drastically changes, and cash spikes or is consistently higher than historical for our business, that is another red flag.  Since Square must only consider card volume when calculating repayment rates this can become a problem.

Of course, I’m not saying that any of these contributed to your lower offer.  I’m just throwing out a few reasons why this CAN happen.

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Congratulations! I am sorry it's lower than expected but you are correct about daily swiping vs not. That's one of the metrics. I'm retail furniture and I process daily. If 90.00 or 900.00 a swipe is a swipe and they each add up at the end of the day. Hopefully, the next offer will go up! I don't know if the algorithm picks up how your business processes I hope it will or maybe that's something that should be addressed to square. You are not alone and a big market for venues and events. The same goes for contractors who send out invoices and how fast the customer pays. Congratulations on at least getting one and thanks for the update and details about it.

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Hello, I apologize I've tried 3-4 to reply, and the boom screen locks up, then under maintenance. Not a good few days on here! When I get to your percentage especially, if I run a sale Thurs-Sun and do 10% off storewide, I use Facebook and Google for this. They are powered tools and are free. I take loads of pictures and post a few times a day with sneak peeks of new arrivals, older furniture, floor models, etc, with further markdown. Our business neighbors have a doughnut and bakery store. I usually get 20-25.00 worth of baked goods and now I would do hot cider and coffee. They or we give each other deals. I post the events that going on. Coloring contest for the kids, pumpkin coloring contest. A gift certificate live drawing on Saturday. All week prior I posted daily on both and boosted some of the posts for 9.95 for 5 days usually in a 100-mile radius and these women came. Last Saturday we tripled to very close to 4x our busiest day. I spent roughly 60-75.00 dollars. It jumps you up and in sales and this is just imo that boost kicks in something in the algorithm again imo. I went back and looked and 85% of my offers were Saturday night usually 7-10 pm after I updated. Thurs is another day again I have done Monday -Wed early bird specials and it kicks it in. I'm retail furniture and it is a little easier to do sales and deals than other industries. Just don't forget the power of free advertising for myself 95% of my first customers are women and then they bring in their spouses. Good luck, I hope you have received a loan offer by now! Hopefully, all the bugs will be worked out.

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Oh, yes! You do not need to meet your 60 days or whatever your minimum payment is. I have many times after I my minimum payment was meet and only paid a couple more days received an offer. After 12 years you kinda pick up the big do’s and don’t. I meet my minimum amount way ahead of time but definitely meet that! If not that means their last offer was too big for you to handle. 2. Try not to do too many, especially in a 4 mth-6 mths span of multiple refunds, and disputes. We have a zero return policy and our furniture already has a warranty and the rest we take care of in house. Those disputes and refunds trigger a person to physically do it and investigate why, who, and what type of thing and then back and forth with card company. The rest are important to stay green but I have been offered loans when one of metrics said needs works. So have many others. But definitely, if you have a slower period or a week or 2 of cash and checks. Just watch one or two big transitions will eat that up. I'm retail furniture so I see a week of cash or checks and then boom all cards. Keep swiping away what line of business are you in? Whenever I run a good 3-day sale on Thurs -Sat. And if I am around 70%ish. Usually, Saturday night it triggers an offer. Just lucky, coincidence? I don't know 100% not with an algorithm but I can pay down over 20% of a loan in 3 days it's triggering something to look at. I have done it before at 13% of my loan paid off and nope not happening. But in the 70s I have had it more often than not. But, like I said it is not a guarantee and honestly nothing is without a human connection. All POS systems use an algorithm type system that picks off or triggers something to look at it. 

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Thank you for being here and answering everybody’s question. 
We got an offer at 95% yesterday but it’s only 20%of my current loan. Do you know anybody did not accepted loan and got another loan offer. How long it takes to update to another offer. 
It’s our busiest season. I generate $5-10k everyday till Christmas. I hoping that will trigger bigger loan if I wait. Thank you again 

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No, it is one or the other! In the testing phase, a few did receive both both that has been corrected. As of now you can't apply for one it will be offered with a limit just like a loan offer comes. But no if you are approved for say 25k and then a loan for 25k Square is not going to let you overextend yourself to where you are paying back half of what you make. Unfortunately, I have done a few tests for them and there are always bumps in the road and that was one. 

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Just got funded today so they are still giving them out. 

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Every day all-day worldwide! Unfortunately, only the ones that are looking come here. We don't see the ones getting one every 5 minutes or whatever the stats are above. Congratulations again and thank you for sharing it does help others versus a script read to you!

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I’m at 70% do you know when I will get a new offer ? 

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So frustrating, we have received 7 loans always got new offers at 70 to 75%. We are now at 96% always paid on time, everything in green and good. We are now in our slowest time and could really use a new loan and no offers in sight. Every time I call I feel we just get a standard answer  .."when you qualify you will be notified on your dash boards like I'm cattle and not important. We are a new business and don't want to get another POS system but might be forced to, someone please help if you can. 

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Sounds like you’re like the rest of us waiting. I always would get one at 60-70% and now I’ve been paid off for a month and no new offer everything on green and good standing. It’s so frustrating 

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Oh no. I've been paid off 2 weeks and nothing 😔!

I hope you get one soon!

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Omg. Fully paid off? I hope they don’t do that to me. I’ve never went to fully paid off. It’s always been 70-75% max I just hit 70% so I’m praying lol. My last loan was 26k I’m praying double. 

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I hope you get one as well!

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This has been a crazy year! For a good 10-plus months it was trending high % paid back or off! Then in late October here pops in the 70s and 80s on a pretty good regular basis. Not all of course but a good %. It stayed that way until last week and loans were going out daily with updates. Now, we hit a dry patch. Usually, I see the most activities from Monday to Wed and Friday and Saturday. Maybe it is just me and the ones who post here. Thursday and Sunday aren't as busy I've noticed. Except Saturday is most of my offers and then Thursday 😆 but if I do a sale during the week it is Monday - Wednesday. I think the increase in sales. Same on Saturday. I do Thurs -Sat sales. It's big boost in sales! Good luck hopefully very soon!

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Perfect and any certain time of the day? I’m praying bc I need this before Xmas. 

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I don't work for Square, but I follow the trends. Unfortunately, it's going like last summer. June, July, and early August was rough, and then all of sudden, it was booming out loans. There are so many if you scroll down that are upper 90% paid off or completely paid off and still waiting. The good Ole days of 70-75 % paid off as of right now seems to be gone on the whole. You might see 1-2 post I just got an offer at 75% paid off but on the whole it's higher percentage paid back or completely paid off. Good luck to you and everyone waiting! 

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Hello, I have been keeping track of the trends and it seems like yall have stopped offering food service/restaurants loans. Are you able to share some light on this? I have called my account manager and he stated that he was out of the loop and hasn’t heard of anything and will discuss with his colleagues in square banking but i haven’t gotten a call back. I understand that these loans are not guaranteed and I know it’s through an algorithm I’ve heard it all several times already but as loyal customers and small  business owners entrusting y’all with our sales and money we like to know what’s going on and what has changed in the loans department. I have had 6 loans with you guys and all have been paid back way before the due dates and had offers in the 60’s- 80% range. I AM NOW PAID OFF FOR OVER A MONTH and nothing. It’s so hard to understand. Then reading so many forums about capital and others paid off with no offer and most all seem to be in the food industry makes me think as square customers we deserve an honest direct answer. Don’t leave us hanging and wondering if we are ever going to be offered another loan. I can’t even go elsewhere for financing cause I do my business banking with you guys and no one will accept square bank statements so y’all have really put a lot of us in a bind. I really hope things start moving for us food industry people. It’s heartbreaking to see so many waiting and paid off for a while already. Praying for some answers or an offer soon 🙏 Thank you 

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I don't think it has anything to do with the food industry, but thats just my opinion.   I expierenced this once back a few years ago.  I was getting loan after loan then all of sudden they stopped.   it was like 6 months before I was offered a new loan.   No reason why they just kept saying the same generic response.    I do not know your situation though  Just giving you my history.    One thing is for sure, I wouldn't base it on what others expierence is.   Square loans seem to have a mind of their own and no real baseline on what one needs to meet requirements.   As frustrated as we get we need to remember these are non traditional loans so we really do not have a say.     And believe me this easier said than done!! I am not near my 75% mark but I am still wishing and hoping it still comes even though I know it won't!!!  HAHA

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All criteria’s has been met! Yet no offer! 🤦‍♀️😌 very disappointing. 

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Hopefully,  everyone will get an offer soon. We pay a lot of fees just to be overlooked for an offer. 

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I’m unsure if I need to continue processing through square…. My business has always been in the green metrics, we’ve had 2 loans 100% paid off within 2-3 months. We were awaiting another loan offer at some point but still to this day haven’t received anything. Sales are at a record level, no disputes, complaints, all green metrics, no loan denials (evidently no application has been ran). I’m lost in this process, if it’s the economy or risk it’s ok just SAY SOMETHING!!!

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@Marinetx I’m sorry that you are in a position that the absence of a Square Loan is the deciding factor of whether or not you will continue processing card payments with Square.  I know it’s not easy to expect something and not have it materialize.  But, since you mentioned the economy, I’ll say a few things here.

 

Square isn’t going to say this, and neither will any card processor who offers MCA loans.  But, of course it is the economy — specifically the lending market worldwide, the persistent high interest rates for borrowing, and the worry of the market that a recessions is still possible.  Of course, this week the Fed gave strong indications that interest rates will be going down soon, which is good.  And, all indications are that the much feared recession is not going to materialize, thankfully.  But, even with those good signs we have a ways to go before nerves are calmed.

 

Square, like any other publicly traded business, has to balance a lot when making loans.  First, they have shareholders who will be very upset if Square’s balance sheet isn’t healthy — ie - has too many loans that are considered risky.  Also, being too heavy in outstanding loans isn’t considered healthy for a publicly traded company.

 

I’ll also mention that the loan status page is not and never has been a GUARANTEE of a loan offer.  It is there to help us quickly see problems with our accounts so that we can hopefully correct them. But I’ve read more than a few posts here from sellers who have been “green” for months and still not been offered a loan.  There can be many factors for this — flat sales, more cash sales than usual (which hurt loan offers since loan repayments are from card sales).  The point is that this page is what it is — a guide and a checklist.  Being green does not mean that loans will come, and that should not be read into anything on that page.  When the loan algorithm is ready to offer a loan, it will, and not one — not even Square employees — can do anything to influence or override that.  That is a fact of life.

 

Lastly, I would caution against jumping ship to a new processor solely on the basis of possible loan offers.  First, they all promises that you’ll get loans, but all of them work exactly the same way as Square does.  When their algorithms are ready to offer loans, they do, and it’s a completely automated process.  Also, switching processors effectively resets the clock and new sellers rarely get loan offers before 6 months or even a year.  Further, they all look at processing history with them, only.  So loan offers from a new processor will be much lower than what you could possibly get eventually with Square.  The grass is never greener on the other side, I’m afraid.  It’s just more grass.

 

I know you are frustrated.  But don’t do anything now that you’ll regret later.  I know business owners who have and understand now how foolish they were.  If you really need a loan for your business to survive, then you should reach out to your local bank.  SBA loans are pretty good right now and even though they are taking a while the rates aren’t bad.  The Fed will start lowering rates soon which will help all lenders worldwide.  It’s just going to take time.  You mentioned that you’ve had two loans.  That makes you a pretty new loan customer, still.  Some have had dozens and even they are waiting longer now, and waiting longer for less money than usual.  

 

Lastly, try to remember that Square is not a lender.  They are a card processing company that also lends money for very short-term cash needs.  Their lending policies are theirs to make and follow and they do not owe us loan offers, period.  Having said that, I hope this helps a little, even if just to convince you that you are not alone.  And, in closing, I wish you well and hope things work out for you.

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Yes, i too am in great standing in the green in all aread and would love to know if i could be doing something more to become eligible again. I’m at about 80% complete currently and always ahead of my minimum due by months everytime 

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I’m at 81% and nothing as well. I’ve always received one between 50-60%. I been with them since 2020 and sales are good. I always pay off fast. Everything in green. 

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Did you ever get an offer? We're at 82% paid off, all green, and nothing.

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Honestly, what I have done in the past in a retail furniture store and I could run a flash 3-day sale and kick up not just sales but swiping that card machine all day! I would do Monday -Wed and the weekend is crazy busy all already and boom late Saturday night I had an offer. My % was always in that range of upper 70s to upper 80s but I could add a 15% to 18% increase in a week and imo it triggered the system. That's imo but it has been done multiple times over 12 years. Could be very well at then in the 90s just my lucky pick? All we can do is share our own experiences with every one being different. Good luck!

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