New Square Loan in 2024

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I’m at a bit of a loss for what else I need to do to be offered a new Square Loan at this point. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years, had 7 loans now that I’ve have paid back early every single time. Metrics are all in green, record sales year. In 2023, record numbers across the board, no refunds, no complaints or issues of any kind in our entire history. Current loan is 80% paid off, but no new offer in site. This is the kind of stuff that causes businesses to find someone else to process through! Please help! I’m sure I’ll get the same old excuses that you guys send to everyone about looking at every aspect of the business. But there isn’t a single aspect that isn’t way up. I’m not sure if there is a new process they are using now, or if there is some kind of issue with my banking or something else I’m not thinking about or aware of. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, because I could really use some new capital to start the year off with and reinvest into my business!

[Stacelyn24 · Accepted solution]

I'm really sorry to hear about your frustration with the loan offers. I understand how important it is to feel valued, especially as a loyal customer. Let me try to address your concerns and provide some clarity.

Loan Offers and Qualification Parameters

Square’s loan offers are based on a variety of factors, and while past trends have shown offers at certain thresholds, the exact parameters can change over time and are not always disclosed in detail. Here are a few points to consider:

• Dynamic Criteria: Square uses a complex set of algorithms that take into account not just the repayment percentage but also your recent sales history, account health, and overall business performance.
• Market Conditions: External market conditions and internal policy changes can also impact when and how loan offers are extended.

Value Beyond Transaction Fees

I understand that a 3% card transaction fee can seem high compared to other providers, but Square offers several features and benefits that help justify this cost:

• Integrated Ecosystem: Square provides a comprehensive suite of tools that work seamlessly together, from point-of-sale systems to online stores, invoicing, and inventory management.
• Ease of Use: The user-friendly interface and intuitive design make managing your business simpler and more efficient, saving you time and reducing the need for extensive training.
• Reliable Support: Square offers robust customer support and resources to help you resolve issues quickly and keep your business running smoothly.
• Secure Transactions: Advanced security measures protect your business and customers from fraud and data breaches.
• Analytics and Reporting: Detailed analytics and reporting tools help you understand your business performance and make informed decisions.

I understand the disappointment regarding the loan offer, please know that Square regularly reviews its criteria and your status. I recommend reaching out to Square’s customer support for a more personalized review of your account and to express your concerns directly.

[TheRealChipA · Accepted solution]

Good news, bad news, eh @cmeshine.  There are a number of reasons that COULD be part of why your new offer was lower.

1. Square might be slowing down on how much loan exposure they want to have on their balance sheet.  They are, after all, a publicly traded company that has to answer to their shareholders and investors.
2. If our sales are flat or at least not growing at a good rate to cover inflation and higher interest, then Square’s algorithm understands that inflation is eating into our available cash to pay bills, etc.  Flat sales (or very slowly growing sales) are always red flags to lenders, Square or not.
3. Sometimes how long it takes us to pay off our current loans can be a factor.  Let’s say that previous loans were paid off with automatic payments in 8-10 months in the past.  But for this current loan it took us 12-15 months.  That tells Square that our card processing volume can’t keep you with higher loan amounts.  Yes, they give us 18 months to fully pay a loan, but they obviously prefer that we pay them off closer to the 12 month mark.
4. If our cash/card ratio drastically changes, and cash spikes or is consistently higher than historical for our business, that is another red flag.  Since Square must only consider card volume when calculating repayment rates this can become a problem.

Of course, I’m not saying that any of these contributed to your lower offer.  I’m just throwing out a few reasons why this CAN happen.

[Twpchair · Accepted solution]

Congratulations! I am sorry it's lower than expected but you are correct about daily swiping vs not. That's one of the metrics. I'm retail furniture and I process daily. If 90.00 or 900.00 a swipe is a swipe and they each add up at the end of the day. Hopefully, the next offer will go up! I don't know if the algorithm picks up how your business processes I hope it will or maybe that's something that should be addressed to square. You are not alone and a big market for venues and events. The same goes for contractors who send out invoices and how fast the customer pays. Congratulations on at least getting one and thanks for the update and details about it.

[ThePlantDealer]

No I just do houseplants and subscription boxes 🙂 the name is confusing sometimes I know ha. Loan got approved on Monday so all good.

[Llcdeliciass]

Odd seems like new form of verification hope you get your approval soon. Currently sitting at 73% right now 

[CTC18]

Finally got my approval yesterday after back and forth with more info every day since Monday. 🙏🏻

[Lakcontrola1]

Congratulations 🎉🎉 I’m still waiting on 85% hopefully this upcoming week I’ll get consider 

[Twpchair]

Good luck to you!!!! Hopefully, things will start to loosen up a bit, and lenders will relax and we can get back to taking care of business!

[MaMaShriver]

I’m sitting at 87% and still no offer!! I’m praying everyday it will be coming soon!

[maryanngregg]

Got an offer this morning, 1/2 of my last one. 
In the previous days, the updates got earlier and earlier each day. Yesterday the update said I was still not eligible, and at 5:30am this morning, my business was not open for the day yet, so no changes from the prior day, the offer showed up. 
91% paid on my 12th loan. Even tho it’s half of my last one, it’s enough to purchase supplies and stockpile. 
My business is same as it always has been, so no clue why it was half, but it was approved and in my Square acct in less than 5 minutes.  I do not have my bank acct linked, and won’t do if Square goes down, and it has, I have access to other funds. 
Hope this helps all

of those waiting❤️

[Twpchair]

Thank you! Congratulations on your offer and you're not alone. Most are trending lower or the same even if sales are double. A small group will post 1-5k higher but that's few. Hopefully, soon things will calm down and get back to semi normal! Thank you for the update!

[Twpchair]

Congratulations!!! At least now the system has everything updated!

[Llcdeliciass]

Do you need ein for a square loan? Or can it be your ssn?

[Twpchair]

No, you don't have to only if you use square payroll. Your full legal name that matches what the IRS has on file for taxes. And address on file. If you want one or get one it's easy and fast to do it online than update it with Square. The EIN vs SSN isn't holding you up any. It's been trending higher percentage paid back for most. Here and there a few 70s pop in. 

[ewing1]

How are things trending now. I'm at 65% and all green. Should I not get excited? Lol I could use some new inventory! 

[Jerrysbar]

We're at 88%, all green, and no offer

[ewing1]

Well, I guess I won't get excited then. There's got to be a better platform for us out there somewhere. 

[Jerrysbar]

My husband/business partner said we should just deny the loan offer, if & when we get one and just use the money that we pay into the loan (almost $1300 in 10 days) to stock up and save. It seems like Square doesn't care as much about small businesses anymore.

[Twpchair]

At rate, I would agree! You're almost doing a high percentage paid loan from some cash checking place downtown. Square has a great saving account and higher % than most banks and super easy to do. Even if you took half of it and put into savings and the rest into your account you are further ahead. That is what I do when I don't need the offer or I get one like last time at 68%! I don't take those because im losing over 30% of my new loan and if it's less than you're paying it off in 4 months or whatever. I  have a great lil credit union and a LOC I use for emergence. 

[Lakcontrola1]

I read that someone here had paid off there loan and got an offer for less then last time , I’m not sure if square is doing some changes or what’s going on .

[Twpchair]

It's not just square its all lenders right now. They have stockholders to answer to and numbers that need to show a profit. Square is still lending every day. Yes, you are correct my last 3-4 offers in about a year have been 1-2k less than the previous offer, then the same amount and the other two were 3-4k higher than my largest loan. I've been with Square for 12 years now. It's been a rough couple of years and we have all made it this far just hold on and let the market adjust, lenders to start letting that money flow again, and we can do this!

[Twpchair]

There are but definitely read their forums and reviews. All lenders have been holding tight lately till things calm down and hopefully soon things will mellow out and lenders will start getting back to normal! I looked at the names usually about every 3-to 4 months and the number of new people to square is crazy! They made big leaps in businesses.

[Twpchair]

My last few have 81%. 84% 91% (that one I took) and the last one 69%! I don't take or try to take anything under 85-90% I don't like giving up 30 plus % of my new offer on an old loan. That's just me though. Have I early on 100% if inventory was low or something was broken down I sure did. After 12 years with Square, I have a great little credit union and did a line of credit with them for emergencies now. Good luck and hopefully soon this board will light up!

[Lakcontrola1]

I’m at 86% all green still nothing .