New Square Loan in 2024

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I’m at a bit of a loss for what else I need to do to be offered a new Square Loan at this point. I’ve been with Square for over 10 years, had 7 loans now that I’ve have paid back early every single time. Metrics are all in green, record sales year. In 2023, record numbers across the board, no refunds, no complaints or issues of any kind in our entire history. Current loan is 80% paid off, but no new offer in site. This is the kind of stuff that causes businesses to find someone else to process through! Please help! I’m sure I’ll get the same old excuses that you guys send to everyone about looking at every aspect of the business. But there isn’t a single aspect that isn’t way up. I’m not sure if there is a new process they are using now, or if there is some kind of issue with my banking or something else I’m not thinking about or aware of. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, because I could really use some new capital to start the year off with and reinvest into my business!

[Stacelyn24 · Accepted solution]

I'm really sorry to hear about your frustration with the loan offers. I understand how important it is to feel valued, especially as a loyal customer. Let me try to address your concerns and provide some clarity.

Loan Offers and Qualification Parameters

Square’s loan offers are based on a variety of factors, and while past trends have shown offers at certain thresholds, the exact parameters can change over time and are not always disclosed in detail. Here are a few points to consider:

• Dynamic Criteria: Square uses a complex set of algorithms that take into account not just the repayment percentage but also your recent sales history, account health, and overall business performance.
• Market Conditions: External market conditions and internal policy changes can also impact when and how loan offers are extended.

Value Beyond Transaction Fees

I understand that a 3% card transaction fee can seem high compared to other providers, but Square offers several features and benefits that help justify this cost:

• Integrated Ecosystem: Square provides a comprehensive suite of tools that work seamlessly together, from point-of-sale systems to online stores, invoicing, and inventory management.
• Ease of Use: The user-friendly interface and intuitive design make managing your business simpler and more efficient, saving you time and reducing the need for extensive training.
• Reliable Support: Square offers robust customer support and resources to help you resolve issues quickly and keep your business running smoothly.
• Secure Transactions: Advanced security measures protect your business and customers from fraud and data breaches.
• Analytics and Reporting: Detailed analytics and reporting tools help you understand your business performance and make informed decisions.

I understand the disappointment regarding the loan offer, please know that Square regularly reviews its criteria and your status. I recommend reaching out to Square’s customer support for a more personalized review of your account and to express your concerns directly.

[TheRealChipA · Accepted solution]

Good news, bad news, eh @cmeshine.  There are a number of reasons that COULD be part of why your new offer was lower.

1. Square might be slowing down on how much loan exposure they want to have on their balance sheet.  They are, after all, a publicly traded company that has to answer to their shareholders and investors.
2. If our sales are flat or at least not growing at a good rate to cover inflation and higher interest, then Square’s algorithm understands that inflation is eating into our available cash to pay bills, etc.  Flat sales (or very slowly growing sales) are always red flags to lenders, Square or not.
3. Sometimes how long it takes us to pay off our current loans can be a factor.  Let’s say that previous loans were paid off with automatic payments in 8-10 months in the past.  But for this current loan it took us 12-15 months.  That tells Square that our card processing volume can’t keep you with higher loan amounts.  Yes, they give us 18 months to fully pay a loan, but they obviously prefer that we pay them off closer to the 12 month mark.
4. If our cash/card ratio drastically changes, and cash spikes or is consistently higher than historical for our business, that is another red flag.  Since Square must only consider card volume when calculating repayment rates this can become a problem.

Of course, I’m not saying that any of these contributed to your lower offer.  I’m just throwing out a few reasons why this CAN happen.

[Twpchair · Accepted solution]

Congratulations! I am sorry it's lower than expected but you are correct about daily swiping vs not. That's one of the metrics. I'm retail furniture and I process daily. If 90.00 or 900.00 a swipe is a swipe and they each add up at the end of the day. Hopefully, the next offer will go up! I don't know if the algorithm picks up how your business processes I hope it will or maybe that's something that should be addressed to square. You are not alone and a big market for venues and events. The same goes for contractors who send out invoices and how fast the customer pays. Congratulations on at least getting one and thanks for the update and details about it.

[Twpchair · Accepted solution]

Hello, I apologize I've tried 3-4 to reply, and the boom screen locks up, then under maintenance. Not a good few days on here! When I get to your percentage especially, if I run a sale Thurs-Sun and do 10% off storewide, I use Facebook and Google for this. They are powered tools and are free. I take loads of pictures and post a few times a day with sneak peeks of new arrivals, older furniture, floor models, etc, with further markdown. Our business neighbors have a doughnut and bakery store. I usually get 20-25.00 worth of baked goods and now I would do hot cider and coffee. They or we give each other deals. I post the events that going on. Coloring contest for the kids, pumpkin coloring contest. A gift certificate live drawing on Saturday. All week prior I posted daily on both and boosted some of the posts for 9.95 for 5 days usually in a 100-mile radius and these women came. Last Saturday we tripled to very close to 4x our busiest day. I spent roughly 60-75.00 dollars. It jumps you up and in sales and this is just imo that boost kicks in something in the algorithm again imo. I went back and looked and 85% of my offers were Saturday night usually 7-10 pm after I updated. Thurs is another day again I have done Monday -Wed early bird specials and it kicks it in. I'm retail furniture and it is a little easier to do sales and deals than other industries. Just don't forget the power of free advertising for myself 95% of my first customers are women and then they bring in their spouses. Good luck, I hope you have received a loan offer by now! Hopefully, all the bugs will be worked out.

[Twpchair · Accepted solution]

Oh, yes! You do not need to meet your 60 days or whatever your minimum payment is. I have many times after I my minimum payment was meet and only paid a couple more days received an offer. After 12 years you kinda pick up the big do’s and don’t. I meet my minimum amount way ahead of time but definitely meet that! If not that means their last offer was too big for you to handle. 2. Try not to do too many, especially in a 4 mth-6 mths span of multiple refunds, and disputes. We have a zero return policy and our furniture already has a warranty and the rest we take care of in house. Those disputes and refunds trigger a person to physically do it and investigate why, who, and what type of thing and then back and forth with card company. The rest are important to stay green but I have been offered loans when one of metrics said needs works. So have many others. But definitely, if you have a slower period or a week or 2 of cash and checks. Just watch one or two big transitions will eat that up. I'm retail furniture so I see a week of cash or checks and then boom all cards. Keep swiping away what line of business are you in? Whenever I run a good 3-day sale on Thurs -Sat. And if I am around 70%ish. Usually, Saturday night it triggers an offer. Just lucky, coincidence? I don't know 100% not with an algorithm but I can pay down over 20% of a loan in 3 days it's triggering something to look at. I have done it before at 13% of my loan paid off and nope not happening. But in the 70s I have had it more often than not. But, like I said it is not a guarantee and honestly nothing is without a human connection. All POS systems use an algorithm type system that picks off or triggers something to look at it. 

[Lynix123 · Accepted solution]

Thank you for being here and answering everybody’s question. 
We got an offer at 95% yesterday but it’s only 20%of my current loan. Do you know anybody did not accepted loan and got another loan offer. How long it takes to update to another offer. 
It’s our busiest season. I generate $5-10k everyday till Christmas. I hoping that will trigger bigger loan if I wait. Thank you again 

[Twpchair]

Sometimes it depends on when you were offered one. I usually go to my old loan and look below if it says paid off as of say yesterday you are set it’s just waiting for the paperwork is all. I tend to get most offers late Saturday night and nothing happens until Monday night deposit. But Sunday I can see my old loan is paid off and my loan circle is back to 100%  check that out. 

[Solstice]

Sitting at 89% paid early before feb 3rd min pmt and only half through the allotted payback time… all green and no offer yet… 

[Twpchair]

Unfortunately, after 12 years it is the season. This isn't the first time I've seen it slow down a bit on offers and now it's the perfect time too! The Feds lower rates again a half a point but better than raising them! I know it's not a help but hold tight keep processing and after the 1st it usually lights up in here! Good luck!

[Parisbarnes]

Any help for me? All green. Just went from 69% & now at 74% just this week. Fingers cross bc looking at my other loans they issued on Saturday and Sundays lol. 

[Twpchair]

I tend to be on a Saturday as well! I process like crazy on Saturday and try to trigger the algorithm to pick it off. My % has been crazy like most this past year. From 91% to my last at 69%. No reason why I am paying back by 6 months, not 18 months but the algorithm just seems to not pick it up and adjusting it correctly to the 18 months. Hopefully, after the 1st and things calm down lenders will let that money flow again! Good luck!

[Parisbarnes]

May I ask how much wa your offer? 

also have you went passed 89% before ? 

[Solstice]

So we had a $48,000 loan that’s with fees. Back in the day I would get them 65%-79% paid back but this go around after a break and starting a new business this is our fourth loan in a year and a half and have paid back every single one in full before a new offer…. I was hoping that maybe it was the system trying to gauge where the business was at and now I’m not so sure unfortunately… because I feel like we should have an offer by now. 😞 

[Parisbarnes]

So this is a new business ? 

[Solstice]

I had a hair salon starting 12years ago with them then Covid took a 2 year break then bought a different salon and started back up with them June 2023 in a different state… we are doing about $500,000 a year currently. And received 4 loans so far the last one being the biggest. 

[Twpchair]

With processing that amount of volume and paying it back so soon on your 4th loan you were exactly right. The algorithm is set up for 18 months and say you are doing 4 in a year it's not gauging your loans right yet. At that rate it's like you have had 1 loan. It will catch up mine I believe was loan 6 and my biggest loan. I still paid it back in 12 months not 18 but no longer 1-2 months and back into the algorithm. Good luck and hang it there it will adjust to your processing habits. 

[Solstice]

Thank you!! That’s what I’m beginning to think 🙂 which isn’t bad but mannn we are ready for more capital to grow even more. It really does help us and we really like square loans. We took a loan from another company and it was the worse decision we ever made. So hopefully people will hold steady and wait for their loans to come around because they will! 

[Twpchair]

Yeah, many have fallen for that fast cash but the payback is crazy, and they try to keep you in a vicious cycle. When honestly it's a big payday loan. It's been a rough year in the loan department and of all businesses that need a break and boost just to continue to grow and grow is small business owners. Good luck and keep us posted!

[Mkennedy25]

Sitting at 75%, hope I get another offer soon. Could really use it! 

[Twpchair]

hopefully soon!!! Good luck!

[Parisbarnes]

Thank you! Also don’t know if they come a certain time? The offer? 

[Lanails]

I think Square loan department has problems recently . I have been with square since 2016 and have 18 loans with them 

usually 65-75% paying off they offer new loan but now 85% without offer 😭

[Twpchair]

They are still lending out daily worldwide! As Square is growing and expanding their brand loans have increased in all honesty.  I know it doesn't seem like it but the amount of people who use public forums vs actual users is a drop in the bucket. I do agree that things are changing with loans. 12 years with square and until about 4/5 years ago I could almost guarantee an offer between 70-75%. Now, I can literally go from 91% to 69% with nothing changing in my processing really. It’s hard when you are waiting on an algorithm system to pick you off and trying to figure it out 😂 good luck! We have a list of about five things we believe that triggers it. That’s all based on years of trends though and not cracking a safe! Good luck to you really! 

[Parisbarnes]

May I ask what’s the list of the 5 things that can trigger it? My hot water heater broke and messed up my floor. I need help. 

[Twpchair]

This is just going off trends and watching other people ok? The algorithm has its own mind. But here you go! Increase in processing! The more you swipe those cards the better! The dollar amount is great as it’s eating up your loan but also a good mix of regular customers and new customers is great. That’s growth and the word is getting around. Please 🙏 try NOT to do chargebacks, returns, or the biggest one is disputed. Those trigger the system and a human has to get involved now. Too many will hold up a loan. If you have a return try to take care of in-store among each other first if not having 1 or 2 a year isn’t horrible and most have no issues. I’m retail furniture store and all of our furniture comes with a warranty already so I have a zero-return policy since day 1. 

[BiancaAlexandra]

Hey Yall! I haven’t been on here in a minute after getting my little loan from Square. I’ve just been hustling. Well, thank the Lord I managed to pay 78% of that small little loan and they just offered me another loan today. I’m so grateful!

For reference my Most recent loan was much smaller than usual at only $1,430! I took it in September and today I got to 78%, everything green, and they offered me a loan of $3180! Almost as high as the biggest loan I got from Square before. 

I am but a small town hair stylist/makeup artist with big dreams!

[Parisbarnes]

What time they offer boo ?