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Recently performed service for a client.
Here's the overview of the whole story...
I am a mobile mechanic. I send an estimate and ensure acceptance, then invoice charge clients for the 1st visit, typically being "Diagnostics" (costs 108.50) with my Service Agreement attached to the Invoice, with a requirement to sign prior to payment. Once I locate the problem on the vehicle, I send a second estimate for the repair work with the contract attached and an inspection form for the specific vehicle attached, ensure an acceptance of the charges, convert that to an invoice, again, with the signed contract attached and the inspection form attached, and plenty of verbal or written communication with the client on the process that will take place, and I do not expect a payment until after the service is delivered.
I rarely have issues... but with one client, apparently they "weren't aware of a charge" and disputed it, regardless of the fact that they had to manually input their card information to pay this charge...
With the client in question, we made it all the way to the day of the repair service... upon arriving at the vehicle location, I encountered an issue that was not there before. A Fire Ant infestation around the vehicle. I could not move the vehicle, as it did not start. I informed the client of this and stated that I'd be happy to come back once they are removed.
However...
She had already paid me for my time, previously, to diagnose the concern. When I went there it was nighttime, and there was no visible ant activity. But I had taken the time to disassemble parts of the vehicle, run tests etc... to verify the root cause of the concern. Which she happily signed the contract, paid for the service by manual card input, and was scheduled for the next invoice after accepting the estimate for the repairs, to be completed on the next day.
Well, after I informed her of the ant situation, she seemed irritated, but I figured that was to be expected, as I was irritated that I could not proceed, as well.
Following this conversation, about 2 days later, I tried to contact her regarding the situation and didnt receive a response.
about a week goes by, and she DISPUTES the Diagnostics call out invoice charge....
So, I submit to square to respond to the bank, with the vehicle's VIN number, customer's name, phone number, address, copy of the signed contract, copy of the paid invoice with card input method, copies of the accepted estimates, and a copy of the vehicles inspection report, as well as the receipt for payment that she was given.
All should be proof enough that she knew about the charges that she had to manually input the information to pay, and for a service that she RECEIVED right? Or am I wrong...???
Because just this morning, I get an email stating the bank ruled in favor of the client...
I cannot afford this S*** to happen to me. This is my only source of income, and business is slow right now... what in the dog *&^# do I need to do to prevent this from happening again? And why is there no way to appeal a decision?! I have to get a lawyer to go after $108.50?!?!? It's absurd.... There was no way in god's green earth that any institution should've sided with the client when provided THAT much information stating the opposite of their claims against me...
What am I doing wrong????
I am sorry this has happened to you.
Square does not make the call on if the sale is legitimate or not. The person paying you, their bank makes the call and most of the time agrees with their customer. After reading what you have stated, 2 things I have seen that might help in the future.
- Entered credit card numbers are the least safest way to take a credit card. Even the Free Square magnetic reader is safer as it proves the person had the Credit card in their possesion.
- in your contract, have it written that any customer disputing a charge that is found in your favor also pays all legal fees including but not limited to your attorny fees for filing which is at $XXX.XX per hour plus Time lost at $YYY.YY per hour to recover these costs. This way if you run into this again you will be able to take it to small claims court on their dime and not yours.
People in general are fighting Credit Card charges because the economy is not that great and to get things for free after seeing different videos and poor advice online. Now my 2 suggestions may not stop people from trying this, and depending on your proof you may still loose in court. My thinking is if you have this in a contract that they signed, it my deter them from trying this especially if their Credit Card company points it out to them. The other thing you can try is having a Dash Cam and save the video with each customer incase this happens. The dash cam would show their Car, address and possibly their picture for a court showing it was them. Have the 2 contract as Diagonestic fee ( also labeled as Item in Square ) and Repair work contract ( Repair Fee). Not sure how these show in your Square reports or if it just shows as a Custom Amount that you manually typed in. Then in court you have the 2 contracts and can show the Fee for each one, not just a generic Custom amount fee.
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I am sorry this has happened to you.
Square does not make the call on if the sale is legitimate or not. The person paying you, their bank makes the call and most of the time agrees with their customer. After reading what you have stated, 2 things I have seen that might help in the future.
- Entered credit card numbers are the least safest way to take a credit card. Even the Free Square magnetic reader is safer as it proves the person had the Credit card in their possesion.
- in your contract, have it written that any customer disputing a charge that is found in your favor also pays all legal fees including but not limited to your attorny fees for filing which is at $XXX.XX per hour plus Time lost at $YYY.YY per hour to recover these costs. This way if you run into this again you will be able to take it to small claims court on their dime and not yours.
People in general are fighting Credit Card charges because the economy is not that great and to get things for free after seeing different videos and poor advice online. Now my 2 suggestions may not stop people from trying this, and depending on your proof you may still loose in court. My thinking is if you have this in a contract that they signed, it my deter them from trying this especially if their Credit Card company points it out to them. The other thing you can try is having a Dash Cam and save the video with each customer incase this happens. The dash cam would show their Car, address and possibly their picture for a court showing it was them. Have the 2 contract as Diagonestic fee ( also labeled as Item in Square ) and Repair work contract ( Repair Fee). Not sure how these show in your Square reports or if it just shows as a Custom Amount that you manually typed in. Then in court you have the 2 contracts and can show the Fee for each one, not just a generic Custom amount fee.
Owner
Pocono Candle
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Square Support Number 855-700-6000.
Make Sure App and OS is up to date on your Device.
Admittedly, I was a bit flustered when typing this out. So I appreciate your patient response. 😅 sorry about that...
But these are good suggestions... The only issue, at times, is that due to the nature of my service, there are some vehicles that I will see without ever meeting the client face to face. I provide a convenience in that regard, as it relates to being a mobile service. Given that, this allows customers to call for services while they're away, working, or otherwise. I may stop providing service of that nature... at least by giving a requirement of their presence for their first service.
I typically have photos and a diagnostic scan tool PDF report with a time stamp, the vehicle's tag number, the VIN number, mileage, and a date that is both manually inputted and auto-filled based on what the scan tool pulls from the vehicle PCM and IPC modules (in the cases where the vehicle has the capability of providing that info. Otherwise, it's always manually filled in.)
The photos are taken during the multipoint inspection phase of my process. I take photos of the Tag, the VIN, and any issues I found on the vehicle and attach them to the section where it's appropriate for what's mentioned as a problem.
My contract does not state what you describe, to the letter, but it does state that failure to pay invoice = "blah blah" you know the shpiel.... warnings of mechanic's lien, small claims, collections etc...
There's also a clause for card authorization that requires an initial before they're able to proceed.
And for good measure, just before inputting a signature, the clients must answer "Yes" to "I have read and understood ALL clauses contained within this service agreement" with a side note "(It's strongly recommended that you read and understand this document)". (surprise, barely anyone reads it as it is, anyhow... they sign it and send it as if it were a terms & conditions for a phone app or something.)
I was also unaware that the manual card entry was unsafe... The only other method I have for people to enter payment for services would be to use my Square Invoices app on my iPhone, and if they have it, allow them to use the tap to pay feature on equipped cards or from their phone's mobile wallet.
Otherwise, people just pay in cash, which, prevents this situation from occurring at all, in those cases, thankfully. But everyone receives a receipt none-the-less.
I worked hard on trying to make sure that I was OK in an event like this, and I still can't fathom their banking institution rejecting my response, given the vast amount of information that I had on said client, and her vehicle. I wish I could've had a reason for their rejection at least so I could've known what the heck I'm supposed to do other than what I did.
I provided a very detailed description of what was done and what wasn't done.
I know why this client did what they did... They did this out of spite. I'll explain.
She works out of town. Her vehicle was parked, unable to start and run, at her mother's place of residence. We talked it over, in excruciating detail over the phone. I concluded that we should probably verify what she needed was a starter (Which she already purchased, but I tend to avoid just installing a part that I'm provided, since there's too much liability in doing so.. customers like to blame us even if we didn't diagnose their problem, but simply did what they asked us to do.)
So, I told her, for me to visit the vehicle and run tests to verify that a starter was indeed the cause of her concern, it would cost the amount mentioned above. She accepted, quickly, like, within 5 minutes of me sending her the estimate.
So I scheduled it for the next day, went out, and didn't make it until the evening. I looked the car over, determined the cause was indeed the starter, having figured out that all circuitry and the battery were in working order. So, I quoted replacement cost. I show up the next day with an accepted estimate, around noon or so, prepared to install the starter. The vehicle was parked at the base of a hill, in grass, and I was without any assistance. I noticed, since it was daylight outside, that there were at least 6-7 Fire ant hills around the vehicle, which were not visibly active the night before. I get there and they're swarming the ground and the vehicle itself. So, I call the client and request that the Fire Ants be removed before I continue with the repairs as I was unable to push the vehicle without assistance, I don't have a tow truck, and I did not want to lay my back in a swarm of ants, on the ground, to install the starter for her.
Her response was... rude, for lack of a better set of words... I advised her on some cheap/quick/easy methods of removing them, at least temporarily, so that I could safely and efficiently install her starter for her.
I did not hear back from her, for two weeks, until I received that dispute of payment. I never said I wouldn't do the work, I just stated that the ants should be removed before I proceed. I suppose that upset her enough to take away from what I already completed on it...
I'm also in the Mobile services business. We performed a jumpstart for what I like to call a scab company that advertises such services. They get the clent to pay them an exorbitant amount and shop around to find a provider to do it cheaper. We performed the service and they (the scab - National Roadside) disputed it. Unfortunately their number is no longer in service and no response by email. Now I'll have to go after the customer. My problem here is with Square as the go between. I used to handle these disputes myself before going with Square. They are not putting any effort into it, because it's not their loss. Just like you I provided all the necessary documents. I prefer to handle my own disputes. I don't know what Square's policy on that is, but I plan to find out. Otherwise I may be going with another processing company. I'd appreciate if someone from Square support would contact me. P R Downey Advantage Mobile Services 770-889-9100 +++
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It happens to the best of us! Got hit with a 600 Dollar charge back for a realtor’s media day and “lost” the money but learned a lesson.
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