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Do you upcharge for condiments?
Hello everyone!
Do you charge extra for condiments? I’ve seen some places do this if you want extra sauce or some other condiment with your food that isn’t part of the base order. Did you find that it helped offset costs? 🤔
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I sell hotdogs and a majority of my topping are free like mustard, ketchup, chili, cheese, etc. But if you want the premium toppings like saurkraut, grilled onions, or my specialty red onion sauce it's $1 more.
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As a rule, no. I have four concession trailers, and the prices take condiments into account. If you want flavoring in your coffee, it's complimentary. Whipped cream? Ditto. Parmesan and peppers in the pizza trailer? Help yourself. Cinnamon Sugar AND Powdered sugar on your elephant ear? No problem. The only exception would be ranch dressing for pizza (ugh). I have to pay for PC's and I charge for them.
The charge on ranch is prohibitive by the way, it's a pain in the rear to carry, but if people want it, I'll have it, and they will pay for it.
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@Pizzagod, I have to say, I am so glad that you mentioned ranch on pizza. 😂 I don't have anything against ranch as a flavor, but I only like it with very specific foods (basically just chicken or fried zucchini).
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It's an abomination. I carry Marzetti's or Newman's and it's $2. You want it? Here it is. You don't want to pay $2? That's fine-the pizza is better without it.
Other end of the spectrum, when I'm in the coffee trailer I'm making a ridiculous profit on everything, and even if it costs me a few pennies more I never say more. People think I'm wonderful for not charging for whipped cream or adding a couple of flavors to their coffee.
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Good evening Adam
I am of the opinion that this is a very important topic in all situations, however it seems to be even more important given the current conditions we are operating under.
I operate a very large mobile catering unit and I am somewhat well-known throughout our city. My family also has some brick and mortar establishments but I have graciously bow out out of day today management of these because it drives me insane.
As this question relates to my mobile catering business, in the past, specifically before the first wave of Covid, I did not charge extra for condiments such as ketchup, mayonnaise and mustard packets or even extra homemade remoulade or tartar sauce that we package in 2 ounce portion cups.
However, as we are all aware, Covid changed everything for everyone.
To try to keep this as short and succinct as possible, the only way I feel I can accurately answer is to give a specific example of the most common request that I get.
I offer for various types of fried seafood platters and with each platter you get one homemade tartar sauce and one homemade Remoulade sauce in the aforementioned 2 ounce portion cup.
I also include four packets of ketchup for the fries and a Plastic cutlery package that includes a spoon, knife, fork, napkin and salt and pepper pc. A couple of extra packets of catch-up or a couple of packets of hot sauce it’s not an issue for me.
Where the cost starts to become an issue for me is when people request three or four extra 2 ounce cups of one or of each sauce. I do now charge $.25 for each extra 2 ounce cup in this example.
Also now as a general rule, whether it be a homemade ranch dressing, homemade barbecue sauce & really Anything that we make homemade, I now charge an additional $.25 for each extra 2 ounce cup.
With the increases in the cost of labor, I really don’t have a choice. Additionally, with the increase in the cost of all things really across the board, I have also a started to charge one dollar for split plate requests, one dollar for sauce on the side requests (for example Mornay sauce on the side as opposed to on top of grilled fish) & anything out of the ordinary that slows down the process of getting other folks orders out or is an excessive request for extra this or that of a topping that comes on a plate already.
I am keenly aware that everyone’s circumstances, environment, operating costs, targeted customer base and type of food being sold would determine how they would approach this situation.
I also trust that each person will know the nature of their customers and what they will tolerate and what they will not.
The bottom line for me is that I have had to be even more Mindful of all costs and Reevaluate everything that I do across-the-board.
Since the first wave of Covid I have had to go up on prices 5% on certain items 4 Times and not one item has not seen an increase of at least 5% during the same time period.
Leading into the holidays I am having to raise prices across the board 10% Soley because of increased labor costs.
Finally, being more mindful of the cost of condiments & charging for extras accordingly, especially those that we make homemade, precludes the necessity of going up even more across the board.
Excellent question Adam and I hope you may find this helpful. The hard line business side of me realizes that while I love food and the whole experience, it’s just another avenue to make money.
If I am not making the margins that I need to, I will go out of business. As much as I love my customer base, they are not going to pay my mortgage and help raise my kids If I have to shut down. Small things like managing and charging for extra condiments adds up to a lot of revenue or lack there of over the course of a quarter let alone a year.
Thank you again Adam and I am sure you will decide the correct avenue to approach your particular situation and please never be scared to Trust your instinct but Also let simple math Guide your most difficult decisions.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply, @jgugic1a. As a consumer, I think .25 for a 2 ounce cup of sauce is more than fair. With a change like this, I feel like it's all about normalizing it for customers. If it becomes normal for them to expect to pay a little extra for extra sauce then they aren't upset when they see that. Taking myself as an example, I've seen it enough that it doesn't strike me as odd or unusual when I see it now. I would also hope that must customers would understand that it's all about making ends meet for the business.
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It's your business-but why mess with something for .25¢? Why carry any change at all? My prices all break at a dollar, and the only time change is involved is when they use a credit card and I add tax to the sale. When cotton candy was $2.50 I used to travel with $1000 in quarters. Can you imagine doing that today? (Cotton Candy is $5 and $8 now by the way).
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I can remember a time where I always made sure to have actually change on me, but I haven't carried around any physical money now for several years. Funny the way things like that change!
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No we don't
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only if they want a side of nacho cheese and it's not already in the ingredients of what they ordered.
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Bottom line is everything cost 💲. Yes, Extra sauce add modifier cost. Your overhead of lemons, containers, & condiments help offset your operations cost. It’s a convenience.
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We do not charge for something basic such as ketchup with fries or ranch with smoked bacon wrapped brisket stuffed peppers which is our hot item. However we have had some people come in and request extra sauce when they already receive a generous amount free of charge.
we give 8oz per pound and 2 oz per sandwich. If they say hey I bought 2 pounds can I get a large sauce then we would charge for 16oz of sauce since our large is 32oz. Our portions are really big though and that’s what we are known for.
people seems to appreciate big portions they can share. Example our loaded brisket nachos very easily feeds 2 people and if they want “lots” of pickles onions and jalapeños on the side we have to upcharge for that.
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God yes. I pay for it, they pay for it. They are my customers, not my friends or family.
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No but I might later on
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You are loosing $ for every ‘give-away’ if it is not rolled into your food cost.
You now make 1.25 instead of 1.50 profit on that dog that got extra topping (not in the costed out build) for free. That 2 oz container & lid cost you X cents - if you do any kind of volume - that becomes $X.
We have a bomb breakfast burrito on the menu - customer ordered it ‘add avocado’. The build does not include avo and is not costed with avo. So we charge for ‘add avo’. Customer gets upset. I comment on his nice Audi - but I don't think those are the factory rims it came with.... no - no they are not - I paid extra for those..... ahh - so you understand the concept.
Can you leave off the parsley garnish - but substitute filet?
The customer is always the customer - but they’re not always right...
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😂 Exactly
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I find that people don’t like to be nickled and dimed. Extra cheese or dipping sauce we do but that’s it.
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